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This programme contains some
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Hey, guys. How's it going?
OK. Right.

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HUMMING: Do-do-do, do-do...

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The Lost Bass! Yay!

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It's a story. It is a story.
You know, it's a quite a thing.

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Yeah. And this being my first bass

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that I'd got in Hamburg,
um, all those years ago.

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I had an attachment to it. You know,
it just went off into the universe.

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You know, it's like,
"Where did it go?"

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There must be an answer, you know?

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Somebody's got it.

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CROWD CHEERS

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down and cried

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and died.

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Fantastic, isn't it? And as you see,

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you can see what's been written
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This was one of the main
places where they used

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to sit and write songs.

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They'd sneak, bunk off school,
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There's a thing about fried eggs.

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I don't know why. Everywhere...
If you go to Hunter Davies' story,

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they're all eating fried eggs.

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It must have been just
after the war.

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They must have just loved fried
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LAUGHTER

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This is where we used to live.

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Our humble abode in Forthlin Road,
Allerton, Liverpool.

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And this is where we used to live
as a little family.

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And, uh, there's people out there.
What are they doing now?

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Lots of lovely memories.

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Not enough of my mum
and the smells

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that would have come from
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when she did Sunday dinners.

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She'd do off-cuts of lamb
or beef and sneak them in to us,

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"Sh. Don't tell your dad. Sh."

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See, whenever I talk about my mum,

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it's always dangerous
because this is where she went from.

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This is our kid's little room.

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Yeah, I stopped them going in there
for many years,

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was too important to me

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and my brother.

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I was 12, my brother was 14,
and she died of cancer.

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When you're 12 or 14,
you don't understand.

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You have to get on with life.
It's... You have to survive.

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his own band, at
the back of his mind,

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he always thought,
"Well, that was a way out."

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And so he bought me a banjo

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and my brother a guitar,
a Spanish guitar.

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Our kid was sitting
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lost, just miles
away with his guitar.

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My brother was 14
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Beatlemania came six years later.

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PAUL: If I'm in a not very good
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a great thing to do is just take
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Because you think about it,
you sort of hold it to you,

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you know, a guitar, and it's kind
of comforting thing to do.

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You go off into a little
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you know, on your own and tell

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the guitar your troubles,
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It's like a cheap psychiatrist,
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And, uh, it turns round
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sort of sends it back to you
and it comes back as a song somehow.

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MUSIC: Kansas City/Hey-Hey-Hey-Hey
by the Beatles

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back home...

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You had gangsters, pimps.

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You had prostitutes.

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You had all you could imagine.

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ARCHIVE: Hamburg is echoing to the
invasion

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from the latest beat groups
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I heard the music through a window,
a cellar window.

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I just wanted to see
that rock and roll music.

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The next band came on
and that was The Beatles.

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Paul came
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who talked to the audience first
because he could speak German.

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"Hello how are you?

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"Good afternoon, sir."

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HE LAUGHS

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It was really sweet.

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I mean, they were young kids.
George was 17,

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then, you know?

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We became friends
and they came to the house.

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They got great food.

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Put them in the bathtub.

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Because they didn't have any mother
or father to look after them.

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grew up, you know?

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ANSWERPHONE SPEAKS GERMAN

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Oh, thank you very much. Hey, Klaus.

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Paul here, and trying to reach you

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so we can have a nice
telephone conversation.

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So I'll try again. Lots of love.

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Bye-bye.

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ANSWERPHONE BEEPS

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Hmm.

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He is still that same little Paul he
was when he was 19 years old.

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I'm a graphic designer.
I had the job to do the cover

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on Revolver.

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I'm a bass player,
but now I can't

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play any guitar chords without
cramp,

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this cramp...hand. I can't do a
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Can't do a fist, you know?
It doesn't work.

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It doesn't work.

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Luckily enough,
I can still hold my pencil.

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I'm going to do drawings of
the story of his bass.

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I decided to start with the Top Ten.

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the bass.

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RECORDING: Well, it's...
So what do you want to talk about?

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We want to talk about you as the
bass player, really.

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So I've got... You've got Paul's
guitar.

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And next to it,
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And...PAUL: My bass guitar

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days go back to
when Stuart was the bass player.

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Stu had fallen in love
with this girl called Astrid.

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Stu decided he was going to stay
in Hamburg,

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and so that meant we didn't have
a bass player,

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and John and George said,
"Well, I'm not doing it."

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So that left me.

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RECORDING: Eventually then, I found
a nice little shop

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in the centre of Hamburg,

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and I saw this bass in the window,

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the violin-shaped bass,
the Hofner.

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I don't think it was very expensive,
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Then once I got my own bass,
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GUITAR STRUMS, INDISTINCT CHATTER

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I remember it was the last day

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the band played in the Top Ten Club,

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and Stuart, it was his last night
of playing.

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The sun was shining.

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I think it was Sunday morning.

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And we were all sitting there, being
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Stoned meaning Preludin.
Pills and stuff.

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Talking, talking, talking.

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and I said,
"Well, Stuart isn't playing.

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"I could play the bass."

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And he said, "Oh, sorry, Klaus.
Paul already bought a bass.

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"He's going to be the next
bass player."

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Wait a minute, Klaus.

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You could have
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Yeah. All right.

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I don't know. Anyway,
I don't even want to think about it.

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I lived in Hamburg through my
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Suddenly they came back one day
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It's so unique.

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We were the roadies.

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I probably held that bloody thing.

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And then our kid got a
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Looked cool.

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ENGINE REVS

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..you know, going to The Cavern...

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..the difference was unbelievable.

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It was like,
"Whoa. How...? What happened?"

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We knew we were going somewhere.

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We always felt
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Then you've got John Lennon.

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You know, he was a very witty cat.

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With me, he could hold his own.

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With George, who was, like,
spectacular.

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And then finish it all
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So we had a kind of magic.

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my love away from me, oh now

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my sweet desire, oh now

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want to hold my hand, oh now

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can feel all right

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I'm the least
technical person you'll meet.

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So I don't know what I do.

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I just play with it.

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It's a lovely instrument to play,

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and it's kind of easy to play.

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And so I got, I got very used to it
and loved it.

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CHEERING

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and I'll kiss you

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This Hofner bass really
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It's very rhythmical,

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but at the same time it's very,
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ISOLATED BASS BOUNCES

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You can hear in lots of songs
that the songs are very,

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very simple and the bass

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does more movement than
any other instrument.

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to you...

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I'm a big fan of James Jamerson,

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who was the Motown bass player.

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Because normally bass is...

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IMITATES PLODDING BASSLINE

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But he was going...
IMITATES MORE MELODIC BASSLINE

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I was going, wow, that's a great
way to use the bass.

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That set me free. I was like,
"Great.

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"OK, I can make up melodies."

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So as the guys were doing
the main song,

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I would just try

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and put something imaginative
behind it.

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And it was a great feeling. I mean,
I still remember it the moment -

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bingo.

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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MUSIC: Day Tripper
by the Beatles

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The first time I was aware of
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I'd have been about nine years old.

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My clear memory of that is seeing
them

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on the 6 o'clock television news,

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were screaming outside the cinemas
and that kind of thing.

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They were playing electric guitars.

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And let's face it, you know,
electric guitars are so sexy.

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My mother would have thought it not

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That was for bad boys, you know?

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Years later, I was the

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electric guitar manager with Hofner,

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a small German guitar company.

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Subsequently, I've met Paul
McCartney.

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It was at his studio,
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He just walked in and said,
"Oh, hello, you're Mr Hofner.

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"Do you know where my old Hofner's
gone?"

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And I knew
what he meant straight away.

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"My old Hofner" - he meant the '61
bass.

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ENGINE REVS

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We'd been looking for my old bass
for years, but that's

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what happened with Nick.

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I started talking about it
and just saying,

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"Yeah, we're looking for it.

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"I don't know if we'll
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And of course, I had to say to him,
you know,

254
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I've got no idea where it's gone.

255
00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:36,720
It's all a bit of a mystery.

256
00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:41,880
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of any bass ever, anywhere.

257
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In terms of anybody actually

258
00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,440
totally associated with
an instrument,

259
00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,320
yeah, McCartney and the Hofner bass.

260
00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:52,800
There's just something
in the soul of the two of them.

261
00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:01,240
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down in Bavaria.

262
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It's still standing.

263
00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:06,000
Poor old place.

264
00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:13,080
And it was here, in these premises,

265
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that they built
the bass all those years ago.

266
00:17:17,120 --> 00:17:20,880
That moment, that turn in history...

267
00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,240
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really,

268
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to feel the electricity in the air.

269
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SOUND OF CHEERING

270
00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,360
I was probably bored on a wet
Wednesday,

271
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I designed and put up the web
page on the on the Hofner website.

272
00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:43,840
The usual sort of things - if you've
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273
00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:45,640
And I think Cathy came up with

274
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the name

275
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with the hashtag on the front.

276
00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,320
Yes. I think it was you,
was it? It was me.

277
00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,200
Well, there you are - genius.
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278
00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,680
Very catchy. It's good.
Genius, you see.

279
00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:58,160


280
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The whole of our marriage,
you know, for the last 20-odd years,

281
00:18:02,360 --> 00:18:05,840
Cathy's just supported me with one
lunatic scheme after another,

282
00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,800
<font color="
a bank manager, you see,

283
00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:10,640
so she's good at filing stuff.

284
00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,800
We talked about it endlessly.
Endlessly. Yeah. Yeah.

285
00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:20,560
I don't think there was one purpose
in searching for the bass.

286
00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:25,120
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who I knew would be

287
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thrilled to bits to know
that this thing had come back.

288
00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,880
So it was for everybody,
not just Paul.

289
00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:42,040

yeah, yeah, yeah...

290
00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,960
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every game

291
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that I could afford to go to.

292
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27,000 people used to be on the Kop.

293
00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,040
And very emotional sound.

294
00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,400

Apologise...

295
00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,640
Among the many things I memorised
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296
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were the harmony parts.

297
00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,080
I can't sing in Paul's register now,
but I could then,

298
00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:05,720
when I was a kid!

299
00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,440

should be glad...

300
00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:10,400
Ooh!

301
00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:14,080
And we would
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302
00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,280
the guitars we liked

303
00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,680
and draw the controls on them,

304
00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,440
and then mime along with records.

305
00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,080
It was a perfect apprenticeship
for being on Top Of The Pops.

306
00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,360
You know, pretending to play.

307
00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,240
The hardest thing was to make
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308
00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,320
because you needed a longer piece
of cardboard for the neck.

309
00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,280
This is like when I'm nine
or something you know?

310
00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,200

Ooh!

311
00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,960


312
00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,640

yeah, yeah, yeah...

313
00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:49,680
Well, the thing about the Hofner

314
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is it's very lightweight,
which is great.

315
00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:55,600
It makes it easier to play.

316
00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:01,000
So that was the one on all the early
Beatles records.

317
00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:02,800
It was a very rich period -

318
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for music, for us,

319
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particularly for making records.

320
00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,880


321
00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:14,240


322
00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,120
That bass was used an enormous
amount

323
00:20:17,120 --> 00:20:19,480
and it started to fall to bits.

324
00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:21,800
And we don't know when -

325
00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:25,120
again, because all the records are
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326
00:20:25,120 --> 00:20:27,920
they ordered another Hofner bass.

327
00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,200
We think it gets delivered

328
00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,440
into his hand on October 4th, 1963.

329
00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:40,240
They did a gig on an old TV
programme called Ready Steady Go!

330
00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:44,320
And there's pictures of him
at rehearsal

331
00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,400
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332
00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:50,320
doing the performance to camera,
and both basses are there.

333
00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,880
He's got the '61 from Hamburg -

334
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,120
it has two pickups close together.

335
00:20:58,120 --> 00:21:00,520
And he's got this new one.

336
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:04,000
They've moved this pickup
down to near the bridge.

337
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,880
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the new one and he's holding it up

338
00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,080
and it hasn't even got
a strap on it.

339
00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,560
So we're kind of concluding

340
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,280
that it arrived that very day.

341
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:18,680
And the '61 gets put
on backup duties, poor thing.

342
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,440
<font color="
the February,

343
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:29,480
they're playing in front
of 70 million people in the USA.

344
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:33,200

Oh, boy

345
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:39,760

who made the grade

346
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,080

sad...

347
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,000
Meanwhile,
the '61 bass is away being repaired.

348
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,640


349
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,920
Our roadie, Mal, took it off

350
00:21:54,920 --> 00:22:00,080
and brought it back like new,

351
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,240
but with a completely
different paint job on it.

352
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:06,160
When it returned,

353
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,840
it had been completely resprayed
and it came back

354
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,480
with what's now called
a three-part sunburst,

355
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,160
which is more or less black, red,
yellow.

356
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,520
<font color="
when you look at this bass now.

357
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,080
RISING DISCORDANT STRINGS

358
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:27,000
For me, the whole charm of
that instrument was gone.

359
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,280
I don't know how Paul
feels about it.

360
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,240
I think he was a bit pissed off,
too.

361
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,560


362
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,080


363
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,120

and drank a cup

364
00:22:49,120 --> 00:22:52,200

I noticed I was late

365
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,160


366
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,680


367
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,760

had a smoke

368
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,160

and I went into a dream...

369
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:12,680
Coming from a look point
of view, I think the '63 is nicer.

370
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,320
Maybe even better. Better pickups,

371
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,000
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372
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,440
He's very singular. He played

373
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,440
that '63 bass then continuously

374
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,560
and you never see him playing
the '61. You know,

375
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,160
he didn't swap and change
between the two or anything.

376
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,920
They went back to America in 1965.

377
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,840
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as a backup but not played.

378
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,680
At Shea Stadium,
if you look really careful,

379
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,840
you see Ringo up on the drum riser.

380
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,560
Just down below Ringo on the back of
the amp, there's the bass.

381
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,960
You have to look very eagle eyed,
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382
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:00,840
What happened to it
after that is a mystery.

383
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,640
It's just luck and a lot of sort of

384
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,520
peering at grainy old
black-and-white pictures.

385
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,160

Arizona...

386
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:12,480
The only time you see it again,

387
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,160
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shot of it

388
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,920
by the coffee table
in the Let It Be sessions.

389
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,360
And then we don't see it any more.

390
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,640
It's just not around.

391
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,920


392
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,280


393
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:31,480


394
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,960
The event is so momentous
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395
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,840
as a landmark in the decline of the
British Empire.

396
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,640
The Beatles are breaking up.

397
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,720
And when they split up, I mean
all the rancour starts - you know,

398
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,400
the lawyers are in
and it was chaotic.

399
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,040
<font color="
there were guitars there

400
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,440
and nobody was really taking care
of stuff.

401
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:25,840
This is the remarkable thing, it's

402
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:30,680
from the end of the Beatles,
nobody had ever seen this bass.

403
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,520
It just wasn't there any more.

404
00:25:35,120 --> 00:25:38,840
<font color="
to establish any firm basis

405
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,160
as to when it disappeared.

406
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,240
I put my hand up absolutely and say,

407
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:48,480
I started this from nowhere,
not knowing how to do it.

408
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,520
So I was kind
of a bit handicapped, I suppose -

409
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,560
<font color="

410
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,200
RISING DISCORDANT STRINGS

411
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,440
It had got to the point
where it needed somebody

412
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,200
better than me
to start poking about.

413
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,240
FINAL SUSTAINED PIANO CHORD

414
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:12,120
It was June 2022 and I was watching

415
00:26:12,120 --> 00:26:14,080
Paul McCartney
<font color="

416
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:20,040
But there was one moment in the show
where the stage just went black,

417
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:24,440
apart from one light
just picking out Paul's Hofner bass.

418
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,360
And it just caught the varnish
and the wood and everything.

419
00:26:28,360 --> 00:26:31,440
<font color="
for this split second.

420
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,720
And I thought,

421
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,760
"Is that the original Hofner bass?"

422
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:41,960
And so I googled it and saw
that it wasn't - the original bass

423
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,720
that he'd got in 1961 was lost.

424
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,640
And I instantly started googling

425
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,560
<font color="
that story.

426
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,960
But in terms of an investigation
and then thinking,

427
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,280
"I want to find this thing,"
I thought,

428
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,920
"Well, if no-one else is doing
that and that guitar

429
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,640
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430
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,080
Who do you mean by we?

431
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,280
Me and my wife - we work together.

432
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,760
And we convinced ourselves

433
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,280
that we may not find the bass,

434
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,560
but we'd find stories
about the bass.

435
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,600
We'd find
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436
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,600
You know,
that sort of Beatlemania fan thing.

437
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:29,880
By July 2023, I'd seen
that Hofner

438
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:34,280
over in Bavaria had ran a search

439
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,640
and I was really curious to find out
what they know.

440
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,600
<font color="
to introduce myself,

441
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,440
thinking he was German
and being conscious of the sort of

442
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,000
the English language
that I was using.

443
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:51,760
And then within 24 hours, I realised
that Nick was from London

444
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,920
<font color="
and we were talking like old mates.

445
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,120
And I thought, "Oh, my God,
these are exactly the people

446
00:27:57,120 --> 00:27:59,560
"I've been looking for for a long
time."

447
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,040
We got together and I said,

448
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,600
"Scott, well, look, I've got a lot
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449
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,000
and I passed him the lot over
for him to read

450
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,840
and get a sense of
what we were dealing with then.

451
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,800
All of these leads that came in,
you knew it was people

452
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,960
that had lived with this story
<font color="

453
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,280
It's just that it was, it was wrong.

454
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,920
"A man claiming he had one of
Paul's guitars walked into

455
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,680
"a pawn shop in Las Vegas
called the Gold and Silver Pawn Shop

456
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,400
"to sell it. There's a television
<font color="

457
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,040
"where it was aired. Hope it helps."

458
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,720
"I definitely saw the bass
in an auction of music equipment

459
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,600
"in the mid '80s in London.

460
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:42,160
"It sold for £100 to a
music rental studio company."

461
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:43,800
"I've heard that the bass is in
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462
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,920
"in the possession
of a Japanese banker."

463
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,440
This information was given me to
a guy that knows the Beatles

464
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,760
and the Beatles gear website well.

465
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,200
I had this vision of,

466
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,120
I used to say to people,
I know what's happened.

467
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:02,720
Some German guy,
rich German guy, has nicked it,

468
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,960
and he's got a big castle
in the Bavarian mountains,

469
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,440
and he invites you up. And then,
after a few drinks, he says,

470
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,920
"Come, I show you something
special."

471
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,280
And there, over the mantelpiece,

472
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,000
is hanging my bass.

473
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,400
So it's a treasure hunt.

474
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,840
But also people love the Beatles

475
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,440
and love Paul McCartney
and wanted to help.

476
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,240
THEY PLAY DAY TRIPPER

477
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,400


478
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,640

the way there...

479
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,160
I've always admired Paul McCartney
as a bass player.

480
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,160
He made the bass guitar cool.

481
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,520
Beatle fans know that the bass
disappeared

482
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,520
and no-one knows where it's gone.

483
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:03,520
So, um, it'd be amazing
if somebody ever did find it.

484
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,560
<font color="
isn't it? It's history.

485
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:11,520


486
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,280


487
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,120
Yeah. Ever since I can remember
I've been a Beatles fan.

488
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:20,880
There's only ever been one band for
me, I think.

489
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,880
First time I ever opened
the Sgt. Pepper's,

490
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,160
<font color="
and they've all got moustaches.

491
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,080
And I thought, "When I get older,
I want to have a moustache,"

492
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:31,920
you know?

493
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:31,920
HE LAUGHS

494
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,600
So I bought it second-hand.
Only paid £80 for it,

495
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,360
which is not much more
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496
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,240
Can you play anything on it?

497
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:40,840
A little bit of Day Tripper but...

498
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,400
APPROXIMATION OF BASSLINE

499
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,360
Only a little bit!

500
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:47,800
I need a plectrum.

501
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:47,800
HE LAUGHS

502
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,640
I've always wanted to play
the guitar.

503
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,720
I've tried for years
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504
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,880
to play bass
because there's only four strings.

505
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:58,840
It's a Vox.

506
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,160
The Vox. You have to have a Vox,
don't you,

507
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:03,440
if you have a Beatles bass?

508
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,920
Oh, no. After all that, mate,
it's broken.

509
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:09,960
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510
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,600
NOTE RINGS OUT

511
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:26,640
It works.

512
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,640
HE PLAYS DAY TRIPPER

513
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:43,520
That's it.

514
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:47,480
Got there in the end. Yeah.

515
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:48,920
Practice makes perfect, doesn't it?

516
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,560
HE LAUGHS

517
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,480


518
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:58,240


519
00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:59,880


520
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,440
RIFF BLARES

521
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:07,440
School drop-off time, innit?

522
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,520
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523
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,760
I've been doing it 23 years now.

524
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,040
So I'm on the
patient transport side.

525
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:17,600
So it's all non-emergency.

526
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,120
There's a guy, Steve, I work with,
he's a lovely guy.

527
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:23,640
Known him for two, three years,

528
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,400
<font color="
when we're crewing up together.

529
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,960
You know, we bounce off each other
quite nicely.

530
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,840
I'm always looking online
for guitars and things.

531
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,240
And I think I just - might have been
by accident -

532
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:45,520
<font color="
that Nick Wass was looking for it.

533
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,760
And that was like the,
yeah, the Holy Grail for me.

534
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,640
It was, you know,
like finding the Bible,

535
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,400
trying to find Paul
McCartney's bass.

536
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,320
<font color="
if you're a fan, that's like, wow.

537
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,720
Well, I was with Steve one day
and I said,

538
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,240
"Well, I've still got a bass
that's a bit like Paul McCartney's."

539
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,520
And he just sort of said,
"I think I know where that is."

540
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,120
<font color="

541
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,200
And I said, "You're joking,
aren't you?" You know.

542
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,280
So I just said to him, I said,

543
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:20,960
"I've got an idea
where that might be, you know."

544
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:24,640
And he sort of looked at me
and I went...

545
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,160
.."Right, I'm going
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546
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:30,560
"I don't know if it's
right or proper,

547
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:31,920
"but I'm going to tell you
something.

548
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,240
"It's only a story I've heard."

549
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,240
He said, "Where?" So I said,
"Well, it don't matter where,"

550
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:40,400
<font color="
was nicked from a house in London."

551
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,200
So I said, "Steve,
can I tell the story?

552
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:49,120
"Can I tell Nick what
little bit you've told me?"

553
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,920
I said, "Don't put my name on it."

554
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,200
"No," he said, "what we'll do,"
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555
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,160
"it's a story that someone told us

556
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,560
"on the back of the ambulance -
a patient."

557
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:06,160
I mean, the emails were quite mixed,
if I'm honest.

558
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,080
One of them in particular was from

559
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,640
these two guys
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560
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,320
and they told me this bullshit story
about having

561
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,800
a client in the back of the
ambulance, as they described it...

562
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,040
A patient?

563
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,280
Yeah, but I think they call it
client now, don't they?

564
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,200
<font color="

565
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,360
the fact
that the bass had been stolen.

566
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,480
And that it had been given to a guy

567
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,160
in a pub up at Ladbroke Grove,
London.

568
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,800
And I thought,
"Yeah, a bit more bullshit."

569
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,720
<font color="

570
00:34:44,720 --> 00:34:47,320
"That sounds like a really good
book -

571
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,320
"Tales from the
Back of an Ambulance."

572
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,120
And I left it there.

573
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,480
I had a call from the news editor

574
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,480
at the Telegraph looking for
stories, and I said,

575
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:09,920
<font color="
for Paul McCartney's lost bass."

576
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,120
And the minute I said it,

577
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,200
Ben commissioned the story
on the spot.

578
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:18,760
The story in The Telegraph went live
on the 2nd of September.

579
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,040
It was a Saturday. It was around
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580
00:35:23,240 --> 00:35:26,640
Within minutes,
the BBC were in touch.

581
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,640
They said they wanted us
on BBC Breakfast.

582
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,240
Well, delighted to say
We're joined now by Nick Wass,

583
00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:35,880
who is a Hofner
and lost bass expert,

584
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,360
<font color="

585
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,160
with many of his iconic
instruments...

586
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:45,720
Lots of interviews and radio station
interviews...day and night.

587
00:35:45,720 --> 00:35:49,000
I realised why being famous
must be absolutely awful.

588
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,480
The difference with the lost bass is

589
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,720
<font color="
in 1964,

590
00:35:56,720 --> 00:36:01,720
and the two pickups are now mounted
in a big black piece of wood here.

591
00:36:01,720 --> 00:36:03,840
But I think you've shown your
audience

592
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,760
some pictures of what we're after.

593
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,080
Yeah. This is it. Yeah.

594
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:09,840
<font color="

595
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,240
it is distinctive
and it should be identifiable.

596
00:36:13,240 --> 00:36:16,200
CONTINUES FAINTLY: Yeah. But, of
course, it may have been destroyed

597
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,040
somewhere along the line.
It may have just been chucked away.

598
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,600
<font color="
by someone at the Apple offices.

599
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,720
We just don't know, do we?

600
00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:25,400
No, we don't know.
This is the problem.

601
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:26,760
Um, it was put away,

602
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,600
presumably, after they
finished filming Get Back.

603
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,960
<font color="
nobody has any clear idea of

604
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,280
what happened.

605
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,480
Where it was actually stored...

606
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,240
It might be there.
We're just not clear about...

607
00:36:41,240 --> 00:36:43,400
Well, I really wish you luck
on your search,

608
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,040
<font color="
story, Nick.

609
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:48,880
In the first 24 hours,

610
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,680
we must have had more than a dozen
major newspapers

611
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,920
and radio and TV stations on -

612
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,760
NBC in America and The New York
Times and Le Monde.

613
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,880
<font color="

614
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,400
Yeah. And it just went on and on.

615
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,760
And then TV channels
that we'd never,

616
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,320
ever heard of were getting in touch

617
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,560
from Brazil and other places. Yeah!

618
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:10,600
TV CHATTER PLAYS

619
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,080
<font color="
into

620
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,720
that spirit of the Beatles. Yeah.

621
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:23,720
You know, we thought
that we had connected with

622
00:37:23,720 --> 00:37:26,000
that positive vibe around

623
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,480
peace and love and the band

624
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,440
<font color="

625
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:36,000
We got 600 emails
in the first 48 hours,

626
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,040
and the emails were just
landing and landing and landing.

627
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,240
That's when the journalists
in us took over

628
00:37:42,240 --> 00:37:46,120
and we started to pick out
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629
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,800

Oh, boy

630
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:07,880

who made the grade...

631
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,560
When we read Ian Horne's email,

632
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:15,040
we knew instantly
that we had to speak to Ian.

633
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,000
<font color="

634
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,960
And Ian's lead was the only lead
that said,

635
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,400
"I know Paul McCartney." Yeah.

636
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,200
And it was the only lead

637
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,480
that said, "I worked for
Paul McCartney."

638
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:44,560
After he broke up with the Beatles,
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639
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,200
I think Paul
was definitely getting back

640
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,920
in the saddle, I'd call it,
which was a big step

641
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,320
because I think he hid away
for a while.

642
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,640
Yeah, you know,
it was very depressing,

643
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:03,360
you know, because you were
breaking from your lifelong friends.

644
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:05,760
You weren't going to see them again.

645
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:08,360
It was depressing.

646
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,680
And not knowing whether I was going
to continue in music.

647
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,680
Suddenly I wasn't having
a good time. It wasn't working.

648
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,120
It was Linda who sort of said,

649
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,600
you know, you just, you've got to
get it together

650
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,200
and we've got to do something.

651
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,000
So we ended up, um, forming Wings.

652
00:39:30,720 --> 00:39:36,240
I knew that, if I kept playing
Beatles songs,

653
00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:38,200
which I knew people wanted,

654
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,360
then I would become
a Beatles tribute band.

655
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,520
I thought,
maybe that's not the greatest look.

656
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,560
He was experimenting with things
he hadn't done before.

657
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,720
He had a Yamaha bass, a Fender bass.

658
00:39:53,720 --> 00:39:57,520
LAUGHS: So he went through all the
basses people are playing, you know.

659
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,600


660
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,720


661
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:06,880


662
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:09,360


663
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:14,240

looks like me...

664
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,560
We went on the road.
Boy, did we go on the road.

665
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,160
Tell us about it.
I mean, well, cos the thing is,

666
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,680
you know, normally, you go on the
road, at least you book hotels.

667
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,640
You know, anyone books hotels.

668
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:31,120
But we decided to really just
busk the whole thing.

669
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:35,000
So we had a tranny and we just
headed off up the motorway.

670
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,440
We had the kids, a couple of dogs,
a whole group.

671
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,360
All our instruments. Oh, there was,
there was a U-Haul

672
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,840
following behind
with the roadies.

673
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,320
And we literally turned up
at universities and stuff.

674
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:48,840
We turned
up at Nottingham University,

675
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,360
was the first one, and we said...

676
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:52,920
In fact,
WE didn't - I didn't say anything.

677
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,520
I stayed in the van.

678
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,520
THEY LAUGH

679
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,960
One of the lads - Ian Horne,
actually- went in.

680
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,240
"I've got Paul McCartney
out in the van,

681
00:40:59,240 --> 00:41:01,240
"do you want him on
lunchtime tomorrow?"

682
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,760
"Really?" They come out
in the van to sort of check.

683
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,720
"Oh, yeah. Yeah, we'll have him."

684
00:41:07,720 --> 00:41:11,840


685
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,880


686
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,840
All right, Henry.

687
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,840
GUITAR SOLO

688
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,960
He was loving it,
being back in the saddle.

689
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:26,320
And he never played the Hofner,
as far as I know. It was around.

690
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,360
Still lugging it around from place
to place?

691
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,320
Yeah, but maybe that's more me than
<font color="

692
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,000
Me thinking, "If he asks for it,
I've got it."

693
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,160
We'd just finished the university
tour

694
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,880
and we were recording
an album called Red Rose Speedway.

695
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,720
Well, on this particular day,

696
00:42:08,720 --> 00:42:12,080
we'd been in the studio.
<font color="

697
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,520
so we drove back to Trevor's. Yeah,

698
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,640
Trevor's my brother-in-law.

699
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,640
He was my assistant.

700
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,520
So we had a truck full of gear,

701
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:24,880
which we had the Hofner bass,
acoustic guitars, some amplifiers.

702
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,280
I couldn't park at Trevor's
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703
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,040
Trevor's house was a school,

704
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:37,880
so it was restricted parking.

705
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,520
Just went up the road a bit,
turned right

706
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,560
and there's a T-junction there,

707
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,440
which is Cambridge Gardens.

708
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,160
There's a parking place
<font color="

709
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:53,200
I'll put it there, with the back
of the truck visible to everybody.

710
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,760
Basically, I had a big
heavy-duty padlock on the back.

711
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,960
It was a roller shutter on the back.

712
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,800
So I felt fairly secure.

713
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,600
<font color="
and we went to sleep.

714
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,520
And then, of course, in the morning,
the nightmare began.

715
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,040
You could see that the padlock
was off and I went,

716
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:20,400
"Oh, God."

717
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,440
You know, a cold sweat.

718
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,440
<font color="

719
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,240
..and immediately notice there's
stuff missing, you know?

720
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,920
Uh,
which was a couple of amplifiers,

721
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,240
two guitars,
including the Hofner bass.

722
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:41,080
I was beside myself with worry

723
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,080
<font color="

724
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,680
Right opposite
where the truck is,

725
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:51,240
so the back of the truck's there
and it's 100 Cambridge Gardens.

726
00:43:51,240 --> 00:43:53,120
At the time, it seemed kosher.

727
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,440
But all these hippies and people
that lived around

728
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,120
<font color="

729
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,040
in these squat houses.

730
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:02,680
There were a lot of musicians.

731
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,160
You know,
obviously, thieves amongst them.

732
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:11,320
And...Trevor thought it was this guy
Dik Mik, who was a bit iffy,

733
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,240
<font color="
really.

734
00:44:14,240 --> 00:44:17,200
He flagged him up.
I didn't flag anyone.

735
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,960
I did feel it was one of that mob,

736
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:21,880
because they all knew
we worked for Paul.

737
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:28,280
<font color="
got tooled up in case it got nasty.

738
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,560
So, wait, hang on -
in case what got nasty?

739
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,400
I decided we'd go and check this guy
out

740
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,840
so we could end this thing there.

741
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:39,080
So we went in there,
<font color="

742
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,240
Dik Mik was quiet in bed
but he was shitting himself.

743
00:44:42,240 --> 00:44:43,800
We looked round - no stuff.

744
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,960
And, eventually, you know, we had
to go to Paul and tell him the news.

745
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,160
Knock on the door
and he comes to the door.

746
00:44:55,240 --> 00:45:00,040
<font color="
and the Hofner bass has been stolen

747
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:01,360
"and a few other things."

748
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,360
And I sort of took a deep breath
and stood there thinking,

749
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,840
"Well,
what's going to come back at me?"

750
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,120
And he was absolutely amazing.
<font color="

751
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:11,600
"It's all right, Ian,
I've got another one."

752
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,440
I had a feeling in me -
did he think I've done it?

753
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:19,720
So we rang the police.

754
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:23,800
And the police didn't seem
that bothered.

755
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:30,240
<font color="
used to have contacts in the police.

756
00:45:30,240 --> 00:45:32,240
Their friends on the news desk,

757
00:45:32,240 --> 00:45:35,200
maybe they'd get a small payment -
that's the way it used to work.

758
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:36,640
So in this particular case,

759
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,800
the Standard had got a tip-off
that this had happened,

760
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:42,480
<font color="
about it, or even if it was true.

761
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,960
Obviously,
the best person to confirm

762
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:50,680
whether a guitar
of his had been stolen would be him.

763
00:45:52,240 --> 00:45:54,960
I set off for his house and I didn't

764
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:56,840
feel very comfortable
<font color="

765
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,560
I didn't think that this was the
kind of journalism

766
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,040
I really wanted to do.

767
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,000
And I thought that, if he did come
out,

768
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,240
he's going to tell us to fuck off.

769
00:46:05,240 --> 00:46:06,280
HE LAUGHS

770
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,000
Probably an hour passed,

771
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,960
<font color="
chatting to the photographer.

772
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,600
Suddenly,
without any warning,

773
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,960
a wooden gate swung open
and there was Paul.

774
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,400
I can clearly remember his first
words were,

775
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,120
"What do you want, boys?"

776
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,520
<font color="
question I think I asked him,

777
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,680
first of all to confirm
that the guitar had been taken,

778
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,280
and he said it had
so that confirmed the story.

779
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,000
And he confirmed
that it was the original one

780
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,280
<font color="

781
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,720
which I knew about
because I followed the Beatles.

782
00:46:44,720 --> 00:46:46,280
So then I suddenly realised

783
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,960
that I was actually
in the middle of a very big story.

784
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:54,200
The most famous
or iconic instrument

785
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:58,200
<font color="
was talking to the guy who owned it.

786
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,080
And he was quite happy,
happy to chat about it.

787
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,880
He posed for pictures
for the photographer,

788
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:09,840
and I think we probably spoke
for maybe four or five minutes.

789
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,760
<font color="

790
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,600
our presence has started
to get noticed.

791
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,120
A small crowd of people had started
to gather,

792
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,120
so he politely thanked us,

793
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,160
and closed the gate
and went back into the house.

794
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,840
<font color="
a Beatle.

795
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,200
The Beatles' music has enriched my
life enormously,

796
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:36,480
and I just kind of felt - maybe this
sounds a little bit sycophantic -

797
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,800
but I just really felt
that I would like to have said,

798
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,760
<font color="
for everything you've done?

799
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:43,840
"I think your music's great.

800
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,040
"It's something which will stay
with me forever."

801
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,480
Just something like that,
just a thank you.

802
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:49,840
I think that would have been nice,

803
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,240
<font color="
and I never got to do that.

804
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:04,920
Paul had given a quote
to a newspaper at the time.

805
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,480
And so we thought
that you would remember

806
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,840
that or you'd remember,
you know, it was his favourite bass,

807
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:11,560
<font color="

808
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:16,360
Nick was scratching his head
as to why he hadn't been told,

809
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,440
that that information
hadn't been passed on.

810
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,400
I have to presume
that he'd forgotten.

811
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,880
I mean, this is a guy who's
<font color="

812
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,160
You know, he's been a few places
and around,

813
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:32,800
so it may well have
just not registered with him.

814
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:33,880
I don't know.

815
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,120
There has been a report recently
that you have said

816
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,880
<font color="
the Beatles. Is this true?

817
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:40,160
No, I wouldn't think so.

818
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,680
I don't think any of us fancy it,
to tell you the truth.

819
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:52,480
Perhaps the bass wasn't
as important to Paul in 1972

820
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:57,280
as it was to him when he asked Nick
to start the search.

821
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,160
I think, in a way, the Beatles have
done it, you know?

822
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:03,400
The Beatles started
from nothing and got everywhere.

823
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,200
The thing is, you know, I don't know
whether anyone really would even

824
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,640
like to even try
and push it any further, you know?

825
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:15,560
The Hofner was a Beatle bass,
and he wasn't a Beatle any more.

826
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,160
And I don't blame him, you know.

827
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,440
Those guys had had a hell of a life.

828
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,480
<font color="
they'd had a hell of a time.

829
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:34,240
I think the Hofner was part of
that time,

830
00:49:34,240 --> 00:49:36,280
and they just wanted it gone.

831
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:47,240
Ian thought that the bass
had gone into 100 Cambridge Gardens.

832
00:49:47,240 --> 00:49:51,320
So we were interested to find out
<font color="

833
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,440
Dik Mik, that at that time

834
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,520
certainly Trevor suspected
and Ian did as well.

835
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:02,640
Dick Mick was a roadie
and he'd been a weed dealer.

836
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:06,400
And we were able to find that,
in the basement flat

837
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,800
<font color="

838
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,040
a band called Hawkwind

839
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:14,440
and a lot of members of the band
called the Pink Fairies lived.

840
00:50:25,240 --> 00:50:27,160
That's a good girl.

841
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,880
Trevor and Ian, they were both
very good friends of mine.

842
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,120
It was the next day

843
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,640
<font color="
said, "Fuck."

844
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,720
He says, "Paul's bass got stolen
out of the van last night,

845
00:50:44,720 --> 00:50:46,320
"outside Cambridge Gardens."

846
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,680
I said, "What?!"

847
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:52,320
They said, keep your ears peeled
and, you know,

848
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:56,760
<font color="
or any word on the street or...

849
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,200
Dik Mik - who was Dik Mik?

850
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:03,720
Dik Mik was one of the people
in the original Hawkwind.

851
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:06,960
Sis Mik was, unfortunately,

852
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,800
most of the time
out of his head on Mandrax.

853
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,240
But he could have
<font color="

854
00:51:12,240 --> 00:51:14,520
or leaning against the van
or whatever,

855
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,000
having a smoke, you know,

856
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,400
and somebody could have said,
"Oh, whose van's that?"

857
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,040
"Oh, it's Wings' van,"
you know.

858
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:26,320
I heard reports
<font color="

859
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,280
but that's only the tip of
the iceberg.

860
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,280
The whole dynamic around

861
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,920
Hawkwind is,
you know, somewhat troubled.

862
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,480
In May 1972,

863
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:48,960
Hawkwind had had £10,000 worth
<font color="

864
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:54,680
In old newspaper searches,
we found out that they'd been banned

865
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:58,080
from the BBC because they'd stolen
a microphone.

866
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:01,880
I think, didn't they write a song
that was sort of anti-the Beatles?

867
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:03,360
They were anti-the Beatles.

868
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,280
<font color="
so they felt quite anarchic.

869
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,280
It felt like Hawkwind had a motive,

870
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,800
and it also felt like they
had the personality to go and do it.

871
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:18,120
Ladbroke Grove was...pretty funky.

872
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:21,520
You know, there was the hippies,

873
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:25,600
<font color="
who had the fruit and veg stalls.

874
00:52:27,720 --> 00:52:30,440
But a lot of thugs
showed up on Portobello Road,

875
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:34,520
and that's when things started
to go downhill. You know,

876
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:38,960
rougher
and people started injecting.

877
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,160
<font color="

878
00:52:47,720 --> 00:52:52,200
Paul Rudolph described a place with
a lot of poverty,

879
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:55,800
a lot of people really clinging on,

880
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:57,320
that it wasn't a big deal

881
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:00,120
for something to be stolen out of
the back of a van.

882
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:01,680
It happened all the time.

883
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,800
<font color="
last place on earth

884
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:10,200
it should really be.

885
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,160
Which is a long, long way

886
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:18,880
from these dark, poorly lit streets.

887
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,800
You know, lots of political banners
written on bedsheets

888
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,960
sort of hanging out the windows,

889
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,240
<font color="

890
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:37,960
To picture the bass
in the middle of all of

891
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:41,200
that makes you feel like
this little thing is out there...

892
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,360
It does feel very vulnerable. ..that
desperately needs saving. Yeah.

893
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,080
<font color="

894
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,880
I thought, "Ah." I got an email
about six months

895
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:04,960
before this from a guy talking about
the bass being stolen

896
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:06,600
in Ladbroke Grove.

897
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,320
So I naturally
went and dug back through

898
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,840
<font color="

899
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,520
It was from a guy called
Andrew - Andrew Dickinson.

900
00:54:16,240 --> 00:54:18,280
And so, yeah, I contacted him and
said,

901
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,400
look, you know,
something's occurred.

902
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:25,680
We didn't tell them what, but that
<font color="

903
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:27,280
can they tell me more?

904
00:54:30,240 --> 00:54:34,240
I didn't think we were going
to hear any more, to be honest.

905
00:54:34,240 --> 00:54:37,760
You know,
it was a very small story to tell.

906
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,760
Whereabouts are you struggling?
Oh, just my neck.

907
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:43,920
<font color="
you know?

908
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:47,240
Yeah. I think he was using his elbow
or something.

909
00:54:47,240 --> 00:54:49,560
I think they do a lot
with their elbow. Yeah.

910
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,640
Dig in, you know.
<font color="

911
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:56,360
No no.
No, I didn't fancy it.

912
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,120
VOICE-OVER: I got back to
Steven's and said,

913
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,240
"This Nick, he's emailed me again."

914
00:55:01,240 --> 00:55:02,640
Next time. Yeah.

915
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,120
I think, uh, you know,
<font color="

916
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:08,280
do you want to, um, get involved
and say a little bit more?

917
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,200
Oh, God. Straight away, I thought,

918
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,600
I've opened my mouth here and he's
not going to let this go now.

919
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,440
What I didn't want to come out
was our first house

920
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:23,720
<font color="

921
00:55:23,720 --> 00:55:25,200
not far from Grenfell Tower.

922
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,760
It was quite a carousel
of people coming and going, really.

923
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:34,160
I think I was made aware of

924
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,400
who you could talk to
and where you could go.

925
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:39,360
You had boundaries

926
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,760
<font color="
and where you couldn't go.

927
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:43,000
So there was only so many people

928
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,480
you were likely to get to meet
or likely to get to see.

929
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:48,680
Dad had a couple of jobs.

930
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:51,760
He played a lot of football

931
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:53,400
Saturdays and Sunday mornings.

932
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:58,360
<font color="
me how good my dad was

933
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,480
as a semi-pro footballer.
Because he was good, Dad.

934
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:05,160
And there was a pub, um,

935
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,200
it's called The Admiral Blake,

936
00:56:08,240 --> 00:56:10,840
And that's
where they all used to congregate,

937
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:11,920
<font color="

938
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:14,960
So occasionally
I'd get taken across.

939
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,280
It was a good place,
it was a good source of information.

940
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:19,480
It was a good source of recreation.

941
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:21,840
It was just a good way
of socialising

942
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:23,720
<font color="
know what was going on

943
00:56:23,720 --> 00:56:26,960
and who was doing what
around the area and stuff like that.

944
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,640
And there was racketeering going on
and people going around.

945
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,120
And if you want a garden fork
or a spade,

946
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:33,680
<font color="

947
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,120
that lorry that no-one knows
are there, if you want that.

948
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:38,880
If you couldn't get rid of it
or you hadn't sold it,

949
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,000
take it out at the pub -
someone will have it off you.

950
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:42,480
Someone, you know,
<font color="

951
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:48,520
Because obviously I wasn't
always crewed up with him, so I was

952
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:49,760
getting little bits of information

953
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:51,480
here, there and everywhere,
you know.

954
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,040
So it got to a stage where,
when I was looking at the rota,

955
00:56:58,040 --> 00:56:59,760
<font color="
I'm working with him again.

956
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:01,080
"I know what's coming here."

957
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,440
HE PLAYS SNIPPET OF DAY TRIPPER

958
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,400
I'm just going to have to try and
muddy the waters a little bit here,

959
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:08,600
because he's not going to let it go.

960
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:14,040
He'd heard that it had been stolen

961
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:16,640
<font color="

962
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,480
They sold it to the barman
in the pub,

963
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:23,200
and then they'd sort of dumped it
in the canal.

964
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,080
Just because they knew it was
Paul McCartney's

965
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:26,720
and they'd never be able to
get rid of it.

966
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,640
<font color="

967
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:32,120
I said, "That was the pub.

968
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:34,120
"So there's the canal there,
so I'm assuming there."

969
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:35,680
So he said, "So whereabouts do you
think?"

970
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:37,720
I said, "Andy, I don't know.
I wasn't there,

971
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:39,960
<font color="
I said, "But that's the canal."

972
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:41,280
I said, "If I lived in that pub,

973
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,840
"I would have walked over that
bridge and just lobbed it there."

974
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,240
And then he said, "Do you reckon
we could get a boat

975
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:47,520
"and go and find it?"
<font color="

976
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:48,920
"No," I said, "I don't think we can

977
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:50,360
"go and get a boat and go and find
it."

978
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:54,280
I think Andrew...replied to me,
saying

979
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:59,640
he would ask his partner. And it's
then I get an email from Steve.

980
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,200
NAOMI:<font color="

981
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:05,800
it's been stolen
and it went on to this pub.

982
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:09,320
The email had said that it
had been thrown into the canal.

983
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:13,600
SCOTT: That was quite a low point,
really. It was almost like,

984
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,320
you know, the body of the guitar

985
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:18,440
<font color="
the water there.

986
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,880
And I remember feeling

987
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,560
that the result isn't
what we wanted,

988
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:28,360
but we might actually have a story
now,

989
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,600
that we know
where Paul McCartney's bass is.

990
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:33,280
<font color="
that canal

991
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,160
and probably gone forever.

992
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,600
Three, four.

993
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:51,920


994
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:59,560
My manager at the time got a call
from Paul's manager at the time.

995
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:01,480
"Richard wants you to go
down to work with Paul."

996
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:04,080
<font color="
It was like, you know,

997
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,880
I was 33, I think,
when we started doing that.

998
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:08,560
He wasn't calling
up an eight-year-old kid

999
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:09,880
who was in the fan club.

1000
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:11,200
One, two, three, four.

1001
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:17,480


1002
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:20,160
<font color="
you know.

1003
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:24,960


1004
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:27,680
And we just recorded
with two guitars and vocals

1005
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:29,800
and it was good fun.

1006
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,360


1007
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:35,680


1008
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:37,520
There's a version
<font color="

1009
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:39,080
where I'm singing lead

1010
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:40,720
so Paul could fly around
on the bass.

1011
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:42,920
And he's doing all these moves
that I...

1012
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,520
But I never felt like I could
hear the voice.

1013
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:48,120
LAUGHS:
<font color="

1014
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:50,600
Because this bass was just too...

1015
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:52,440
It was too big sounding.

1016
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:59,040
At some point I asked the
whereabouts of the Hofner and...

1017
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:00,600
..it suddenly appeared.

1018
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:04,280
Elvis Costello said,
"What about your Hofner bass?

1019
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,760
<font color="
the Beatle bass?"

1020
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:09,080
And I was saying,
"Well, I can try it,

1021
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:12,000
"but it's not very good at
keeping in tune,"

1022
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:15,760
which it isn't because they're
not very expensive instruments.

1023
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:18,200
<font color="
recording with it, really,

1024
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:21,080
in favour of more
sort of modern instruments.

1025
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:23,680
But he said, "Oh, but I love
the sound of it," you know, "Go on."

1026
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:29,920
But it wasn't the lost
bass, the '61 bass.

1027
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:32,040
<font color="

1028
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:35,520
But I think at that point, he,

1029
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:37,120
things changed for Paul.

1030
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:40,360

I have been trying to compose

1031
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:44,440

home?" note meant for you...

1032
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:47,880
And it recorded great.

1033
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:50,560
It's got a lovely tone for a little,
little bass.

1034
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:54,560

my brave face...

1035
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:56,800
Honestly, I felt vindicated
<font color="

1036
01:00:56,800 --> 01:01:01,160
You could hear his personality
really clearly,

1037
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:03,320
and it had the tone.
It had the tone.

1038
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:05,720
It was like...like somebody singing,
you know?

1039
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:08,480


1040
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:10,800
CHEERING

1041
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:15,480
Elvis Costello suggested
<font color="

1042
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:18,000
Maybe that kind of like,
he might have thought,

1043
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:19,800
"Yeah, what happened?"
Maybe that's when the whole

1044
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:21,800
conversation sort of started up
again about -

1045
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:23,000
where is the original one?

1046
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:28,880
<font color="
when we were about to embark on big,

1047
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,120
massive world tour and Paul said,

1048
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,000
"What are people going to want
to...?"

1049
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,600
You know, "They're going to come to
a gig, what are they going to want?"

1050
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:38,680
<font color="

1051
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:41,960
They're going to want some big,
big moments.

1052
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:45,480

you...

1053
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:46,880
CHEERING

1054
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:49,320


1055
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:53,360


1056
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:58,160


1057
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:01,800


1058
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:05,600

all my loving to you...

1059
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:11,040
SONG CONTINUES FAINTLY

1060
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:17,520
Paul's quite nostalgic about things.

1061
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:21,160
<font color="

1062
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:23,200
Not maybe in a collectable way,

1063
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:24,520
but just emotionally

1064
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:26,880
and they're part of his history
and they're part of his life.

1065
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:28,360
And he... And he...

1066
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:31,240
Yeah, he probably missed the bass.

1067
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:32,520
He just wanted it back.

1068
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:38,600
Yeah, well, I think anything
that's nicked, you want back.

1069
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:42,400
You know, especially
if it has a sentimental attachment.

1070
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:44,880
Plus, I was annoyed
that someone nicked it.

1071
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:47,840
You know, it's just like, "How dare
you? Give me it back," you know?

1072
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:53,040
SCOTT: Very often in investigations,
there's a breakthrough moment

1073
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:56,640
where you're effectively
given something on a plate.

1074
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:02,000
NAOMI:<font color="
person?

1075
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:05,680
And how does he know so much
about the theft of this guitar?

1076
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:09,520
I made an inquiry about

1077
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:12,520
the residents of
100 Cambridge Gardens.

1078
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:14,320
So who was on
the electoral register?

1079
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:18,000
<font color="

1080
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:19,360
the list of names,

1081
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:21,840
and we got to the name Glenister.

1082
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:26,200
Oh, my God. His parents are on

1083
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:29,200
the electoral register
in 100 Cambridge Gardens.

1084
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:47,320
We was on holiday in Spain
and my phone went.

1085
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:50,880
<font color="

1086
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:52,920
"It's Nick Wass from The Lost Bass."

1087
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:56,640
I said, "Oh, right, hi.
You all right?"

1088
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:57,680
He said, "Um...

1089
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:02,640
"..I think you know a little
bit more than you're letting on.

1090
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:05,680
"Are you prepared
<font color="

1091
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:08,200
I said, "Not really. I don't know
anything other than I told you."

1092
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:09,480
And he said, "Well, I think you do."

1093
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:13,200
I knew I had to ask him the question
and say to him,

1094
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:17,960
"Look, Steve, just tell me
what happened.

1095
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:19,720
<font color="

1096
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:22,200
"because you wouldn't have sent me
all this stuff.

1097
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:25,480
"And I know you were in the house.
Just tell me what happened."

1098
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:29,400
My dad used to come and watch
me play football a lot.

1099
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:32,760
He was never complimentary
<font color="

1100
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:35,000
There was always something
I could have done better and that.

1101
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:37,200
So we was coming home one day

1102
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:39,720
and I had the radio on in the car.

1103
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:43,360
How old do you think you are
at this point?

1104
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:46,720
I may have just had the kids,
so mid 20s, something like that.

1105
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:50,880
<font color="

1106
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:53,360
"Oh, it's The Beatles.
I like these."

1107
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:56,000
And it was...
I done it more.

1108
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:58,800
The louder the radio was,
the less he could talk.

1109
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:01,040
And I was getting a bit
fed up with it all now,

1110
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:02,560
<font color="
up.

1111
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:09,160
And he said, um...

1112
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:13,240
He said, "Did I ever tell you
about that guitar, then?"

1113
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:18,320
I said, "What guitar?"

1114
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:21,840
He said, "The one -
Paul McCartney's guitar."

1115
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:25,040
So I said, "No,"
<font color="

1116
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:26,960
So I turned the radio down.

1117
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:29,400
He said, "Um..."

1118
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:30,880
Well, he said, "I nicked it."

1119
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:33,720
I said, "What do you mean,
you nicked it?"

1120
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:39,040
He said, "I didn't even know it was
the guitar."

1121
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:40,760
<font color="
up."

1122
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:43,760
He said, "When I realised what it
was, I thought, "Oh...

1123
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:46,640
"..you know, it's Paul McCartney's.

1124
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:48,920
"It's the obvious shape -
that proper-shaped guitar."

1125
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,280
I can just imagine, bless him,
<font color="

1126
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:57,320
You've nicked the Mona Lisa,
what are you going to do with that?

1127
01:05:57,320 --> 01:05:59,040
You can't sell it. You know,
it's just one of those things.

1128
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:02,920
It was that family
up on the top floor.

1129
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:05,880
They were ignored
<font color="

1130
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:09,400
Nobody went with a wrench
to those people up on the top floor.

1131
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:12,080
To be honest, they were ignored by
us... And they were ignored by us.

1132
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:14,760
..in the early days of the search.
And that is perhaps one of the most

1133
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:17,800
<font color="
this whole story.

1134
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:24,040
It got given to a pub landlord
who run The Admiral Blake.

1135
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:28,160
The landlord at the time was a chap
called Ron.

1136
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:31,480
He said, "I just said to Ron,
here you are, I'll tell you what,

1137
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:33,320
<font color="
they can learn it."

1138
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:35,080
He said,
"Just give us a couple of drinks."

1139
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:38,320
I said, "Well..."
He said, "Well," he said...

1140
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:41,320
He said, "He bought me a day's worth
of light ales."

1141
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:44,520
<font color="
Ron and I think one of his kids,

1142
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:46,800
Graham, ended up with it.

1143
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:54,360
It had gone to a pub landlord called
Ron Guest.

1144
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:56,880
We knew that it had

1145
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:59,440
then been passed on
to his son, Graham,

1146
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:03,320
<font color="
in this terrible car crash.

1147
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:07,000
But then we decided to look at
the other children,

1148
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:10,240
and I was able to contact
Elaine Guest,

1149
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:13,280
who was the youngest
of the children, and talked to her.

1150
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:19,560
That's me on the roof with the two
dogs.

1151
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:21,760
Because the roof was our garden.

1152
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:24,920
I mean, I grew
up with Graham always having a bass.

1153
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:27,680
I can't remember a time
when it suddenly appeared.

1154
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:30,360
It was always Graham's bass.

1155
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:31,960
He was just always playing.

1156
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:34,320
You know, and he didn't mind

1157
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:36,920
if I plonked myself
down and listened to it.

1158
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:39,920
Where was it kept here?

1159
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:42,400
Um, in the little bedroom.

1160
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:48,680
You don't think he would have known
<font color="

1161
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:52,240
Definitely not!
Definitely not!

1162
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:54,120
I mean, when you think about it,

1163
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:56,960
who in their right minds would
buy a bass knowing it was

1164
01:07:56,960 --> 01:08:00,120
Paul McCartney's and then give it
to your son, who's going to take it

1165
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:02,160
God knows where and somebody's going
to say,

1166
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:04,600
"That's Paul McCartney's bass!"

1167
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:05,640
But, no.

1168
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:09,000
Do you wish you'd played it a bit
now?

1169
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:11,480
Now I know whose it is, yes!

1170
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:17,720
<font color="
No. No, no.

1171
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:20,920
I always thought
The Beatles were like a girlie band.

1172
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:25,920
After Graham had died,

1173
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:31,840
her brother Haydn took the bass
from their family home.

1174
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:35,000
Haydn got divorced in the 1990s

1175
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:38,840
<font color="
and then ended up in Hastings.

1176
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:44,720
He left his wife and kids
and then got involved with somebody,

1177
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:48,360
and that's hence why there's been
no communication at all.

1178
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:53,960
From what I can gather,

1179
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:57,160
the bass was just in the loft
in the house at Hastings.

1180
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:09,320
We were in Los Angeles.
We were rehearsing, I think.

1181
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:12,120


1182
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:15,640
<font color="
I got a phone call from a colleague,

1183
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:18,680
said, "Somebody's turned
up at the farm

1184
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:21,320
"with a bass
and they think it might

1185
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:23,920
"be Paul's. This lost bass
that everybody's talking about

1186
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:27,240
"all of a sudden." Cos it
<font color="

1187
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:32,800
And she'd left some photos
and then took the bass back.

1188
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:34,760
So I was emailed the photos

1189
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:37,160
and I just had a feeling.
I could feel it.

1190
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:41,360
I just thought, "Ooh, this is,
this is really interesting."

1191
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:44,520
<font color="
in the morning

1192
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:47,240
and I had my laptop
and we were about to leave

1193
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:48,320
for the studio and I said,

1194
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:49,960
"I've got something I need to talk
to you about."

1195
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:51,280
And he thought it was something bad.

1196
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:53,720
<font color="
I said, "No, it's NOT bad."

1197
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:56,000
And I opened up my laptop
and I was shaking.

1198
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:57,760
I was literally shaking.

1199
01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:00,320
The minute I saw the case,
it was, you know...

1200
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:02,080
HE GASPS

1201
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:02,080
Whoa!

1202
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:05,560
"I've got it back.
Oh, my God."

1203
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:08,320
And I'm checking it and I'm
thinking, "Well, yeah, that's it."

1204
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:10,280
And you know, that's how it looked

1205
01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:12,120
and this is definitely the case.

1206
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:15,480
And I remember carrying it
in that case.

1207
01:10:15,480 --> 01:10:18,160
So I organised for somebody to go
and pick it up.

1208
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:22,680
And then I said, "Have you got it?"

1209
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:24,480
And he said, "Yep, it's here."

1210
01:10:24,480 --> 01:10:26,760
I said, "Keep it.

1211
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:28,560
"Don't let anybody...

1212
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:30,040
"Don't... Just put it away."

1213
01:10:32,480 --> 01:10:38,360

take...

1214
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:40,560
LAUGHS: We've hardly let it
out of our sight!

1215
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:44,320


1216
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:47,600


1217
01:10:57,320 --> 01:11:00,720
And I'm sitting at home on my sofa.

1218
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:03,880
Cathy's sitting over there
and my mobile phone goes.

1219
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:07,280
And this voice comes on and says,

1220
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:10,680
<font color="
We've got the bass."

1221
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:13,280
And I'm thinking, "Who's that?
Who's this? Who are you?"

1222
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:15,720
Then the penny dropped - the accent,
the Liverpool accent,

1223
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:18,280
and I realised it was
Paul McCartney.

1224
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:23,000
Well, we didn't quite know who to
tell. Um...

1225
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:26,800
There were factors that meant we
should keep it a secret

1226
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:29,720
for a bit longer
till we got our act together.

1227
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:33,840
Till we've absolutely had
everyone verify that it was mine -

1228
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:36,960
people like Nick. Um...

1229
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:43,000
..so it was sweet to be able to ring
him up and say, "Guess what?"

1230
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:44,520
It was stunning!

1231
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:47,920
You know, it was like,
"Wow. What? Really?"

1232
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:49,320
And I think I said to Paul,

1233
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:52,720
<font color="
a beer out of the fridge for this."

1234
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:53,880
And he said, "I would."

1235
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:57,800
He said, "Yeah, is it a German beer
like I used to drink in Hamburg?"

1236
01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:01,000
It was just amazing
cos I could hear Paul

1237
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:04,640
on the phone to Nick
<font color="

1238
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:07,640
That was incredible
for us to just sit here thinking

1239
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:10,640
that Nick was in Germany,
Paul was in LA,

1240
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:12,720
the bass was in Sussex

1241
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:14,360
and we'd done it.

1242
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:20,600
What happened
for me over the last year,

1243
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:23,400
<font color="

1244
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:27,880
which has certainly changed things
for our life.

1245
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:34,880
And the bass has certainly lightened
that situation for us, I would say.

1246
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:37,040
Yeah, sure - focuses the mind.

1247
01:12:42,440 --> 01:12:43,800
BIRDSONG

1248
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:52,400
SOPHIE RAWORTH: Paul McCartney's
most treasured bass guitar

1249
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:53,640
that he had played throughout

1250
01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:57,080
the early days of The Beatles
vanished without trace.

1251
01:12:57,080 --> 01:13:01,200
Now, 51 years later,
it has been found.

1252
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:04,120
James Dunham went to meet the
mother-of-two who was unaware

1253
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:07,160
she was holding on to
an iconic instrument.

1254
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:10,520
I was actually cataloguing lots
of guitars that I've got.

1255
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:12,680
<font color="

1256
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:15,080
it immediately came up.

1257
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:16,920
I panicked and then, uh,

1258
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:20,520
went straight to his house,
because I knew he lived nearby.

1259
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:24,720
And I eventually found it,
after going through a lot of fields.

1260
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:27,960
It had broken in the press that we
were looking for this lost bass.

1261
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:31,520
And that might have been one of the
reasons Cathy thought,

1262
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:33,480
"I'd better give it back."

1263
01:13:33,480 --> 01:13:34,960
There's this little side life

1264
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:37,640
it's gone off and living

1265
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:40,120
with all these people I don't know.

1266
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:44,120
And... And it ends up with Cathy.

1267
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:52,040
This is Paul's bass.
This is something

1268
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:53,920
he really, truly cares and loves.

1269
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:57,160
And if you leave a guitar in a
<font color="

1270
01:13:57,160 --> 01:13:58,560
you know.

1271
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:00,800
You've got to put it all together.

1272
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:03,440
Put the strings on

1273
01:14:03,440 --> 01:14:05,200
and then just play that first chord

1274
01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:07,200
and just hope that you've got it
right.

1275
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:09,720
That's where the craftsmanship is,
<font color="

1276
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:12,880
is an old-school craftsman
in the way he works,

1277
01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:14,280
the way he does things.

1278
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:17,800
These poor people that it means
a lot to you,

1279
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:19,360
but it doesn't really sort of...

1280
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:21,040
I'm not that fussed about it.

1281
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:23,320
<font color="
yourself. It's just a guitar."

1282
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:26,000
And I, you know, now I get it,
I get I get it now,

1283
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:30,400
but I still don't GET IT get it,
really. You know, just leave it.

1284
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:34,400
Thieving's nothing to be proud of.
Full stop.

1285
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:38,000
<font color="
We've all done it, so...

1286
01:14:39,440 --> 01:14:43,880
But it's...the iconic guitar...

1287
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:47,080
..that he had in his hands.

1288
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:53,800
The implication, the size of it.

1289
01:14:56,320 --> 01:15:00,560
Its meaning to obviously
Paul McCartney, and other people.

1290
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:05,360
The enormity of it all is just
<font color="

1291
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:07,800
Overwhelming?
Yeah. A little bit, yeah.

1292
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:11,560
I don't want... I don't want anyone

1293
01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:15,040
to think of Dad anything
but a nice lad,

1294
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:18,000
because that's what he was. He was
a... He was a lovely, lovely lad.

1295
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:22,720
<font color="
in the house for what we had.

1296
01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:27,480
It was just to make ends meet
a little bit.

1297
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:34,120
I don't blame him too much,
you know.

1298
01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:37,520
I think it's just petty thievery.

1299
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:39,920
It's the kind of thing
we would have done

1300
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:41,640
a little bit of in Liverpool.

1301
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:47,000
Just, you know, just... It's there
and I could nick it,

1302
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:52,880
so I will. Um, we got out of
that pretty quickly.

1303
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:56,160
Because, luckily, the Beatles took
over

1304
01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:59,000
and we found an honest
profession.

1305
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:03,000
But I can sympathise with people
who don't have that kind of luck.

1306
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:06,080
So I don't blame him too much.

1307
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:15,600
I'm not comfortable.

1308
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:17,960
I'm not all right with it.

1309
01:16:20,480 --> 01:16:24,360
You're sort of... You're taking
the name of my dad through

1310
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:26,720
muddy waters,
<font color="

1311
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:32,600
Growing up anyway, I don't remember
my dad ever telling me he loved me.

1312
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:35,760
Not that that was a problem for me.

1313
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:37,480
It was just how it was.

1314
01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:44,520
When we had a little boy,

1315
01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:48,000
and I rang home, he, uh...

1316
01:16:57,600 --> 01:16:58,960
He never told me.

1317
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:01,040
<font color="

1318
01:17:02,480 --> 01:17:04,640
..I later found out that he cried.

1319
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:09,600
Which Dad never did that.
Dad never...

1320
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:12,680
I never saw... I never saw a tear
out of my dad's eye.

1321
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:17,160
God, I can't remember, I think...

1322
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:19,600
But apparently he cried
<font color="

1323
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:20,840
it meant the name would never go.

1324
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:34,960
Did you just see the one I sent you?

1325
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:36,320
The one with the glue?

1326
01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:38,520
Have you seen that one yet?

1327
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:41,160
No. Oh, I've just sent...
I'm watching the dowels going in.

1328
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:42,440
Oh, I've just sent you another one

1329
01:17:42,440 --> 01:17:45,240
<font color="
the neck back on.

1330
01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:49,040
Oh, lovely. Is that Martin?
Yep. Say hi.

1331
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:51,040
Hello, Paul.Hi, Martin!

1332
01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:52,960
Your bass is saved.

1333
01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:57,040
Yeah, I know. Thanks for doing this,
man. It's great.

1334
01:17:57,040 --> 01:17:58,080
You're welcome.

1335
01:17:58,080 --> 01:17:59,800
I like his workshop as well.

1336
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:01,320
Oh, yes. Lovely workshop.

1337
01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:03,600
<font color="

1338
01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:05,360
Oh, yeah, that's... There you go.

1339
01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:07,600
How beautiful is that?Yeah.

1340
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:10,400
Little pond.Beautiful.

1341
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:12,480
Yeah. I can't wait to play it.

1342
01:18:12,480 --> 01:18:14,160
Yeah, it won't be long.

1343
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:16,200
Have a good one, Paul.
Thank you. Bye.

1344
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:24,840
I feel like, over the last 20 years
<font color="

1345
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:27,320
Paul to me seems to appreciate

1346
01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:31,000
more and more how good they were
and how good the songs were.

1347
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:33,240
When he plays them,
he really enjoys them

1348
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:35,400
and he thinks, this was a great song
and we really,

1349
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:38,240
<font color="
of what they achieved.

1350
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:41,840
So I think now him playing them
onstage is big for him.

1351
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:43,080
I think he loves it.

1352
01:18:44,440 --> 01:18:46,000
He's come that full circle.

1353
01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:49,000
SOULFUL SONG PLAYS

1354
01:18:50,480 --> 01:18:52,960
We could have a little breakdown.

1355
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:55,920
<font color="
something you might want to see.

1356
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:57,280
You've got something for me.

1357
01:18:57,280 --> 01:18:58,880
A little something
you might want to see that

1358
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:00,520
I believe belonged to you.

1359
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:01,920
If you want to come this way.

1360
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:08,160
Whoa! Here it is.

1361
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:09,680
THEY LAUGH

1362
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:12,000
<font color="

1363
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:15,000
He's done a brilliant job,
hasn't he?

1364
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:22,960
Oh... Oh, yeah, I wanted to
show you that.

1365
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:26,560
That's a little note from Martin.
It's from Martin.

1366
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:27,880
"Many times I've had the pleasure

1367
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:32,080
"of putting music back
into old broken instruments.

1368
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:35,240
"It's been an absolute joy to
do that with your bass.

1369
01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:38,000
"So thanks, and I hope you like it.

1370
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:39,520
"Keep on trucking."

1371
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:41,480
Well, thank you, Martin.

1372
01:19:41,480 --> 01:19:42,840
You've done a great job.

1373
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:45,240
Yeah.I love those kind of guys.

1374
01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:46,880
PLAYS AMPLIFIED

1375
01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:01,520
50 years ago
since you last played that.

1376
01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:03,400
HE CHUCKLES

1377
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:05,720
That's crazy, isn't it?It's true,
isn't it? Yeah.

1378
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:08,120
It's over 50 years, yeah.
That's crazy.

1379
01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:10,960
But I'd love to know
<font color="

1380
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:13,000
Maybe rehearsing for something.

1381
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:15,400
Yeah, and if the van had been
parked.I don't know.

1382
01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:18,120
Yeah. I know, it's a long time ago.
Well, the van's parked

1383
01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:21,280
and the guys go in
for a couple of pints,

1384
01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:24,160
and they decide they should leave
the van

1385
01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:27,440
and go home and come back in
tomorrow morning.

1386
01:20:27,440 --> 01:20:30,200
<font color="

1387
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:34,400
So it gets nicked and then ends up
with the local, uh...

1388
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:35,720
Is that a bit short, the strap?

1389
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:42,560
Yeah. It's kind of a bigger rounder
sound, I feel.

1390
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:45,200
HE PLAYS DAY TRIPPER BASSLINE

1391
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:48,360
LAUGHS

1392
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:49,400
Yeah.

1393
01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:53,600
Wow.

1394
01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:57,360
There she is.<font color="

1395
01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:01,080
Welcome home, honey.

1396
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:02,360
Look at that. Wow.

1397
01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:06,560
Crazy story. Yeah. Yeah.

1398
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:08,400
INDISTINCT

1399
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:12,160
SCOTT: You've got to go a long way
to find somebody that's grown up

1400
01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:13,640
without the Beatles.

1401
01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:18,720
And I think there's something about
the relationship between us all -

1402
01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:20,680
<font color="
and The Beatles,

1403
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:25,000
and you sort of think you know them
because you know the music.

1404
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:28,720
Good to see Floss chasing as well.

1405
01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:31,040
VOICE-OVER: The music went global,

1406
01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:34,720
but the bass, by going off
on that weird route,

1407
01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:38,280
<font color="
in Cambridge Gardens,

1408
01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:43,440
it's gone into
that ordinary British world.

1409
01:21:43,440 --> 01:21:48,720
It's gone missing here. It's ended
up here, in ordinary streets,

1410
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:52,080
ordinary pubs, ordinary families.

1411
01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:54,720
And there's something incredible
<font color="

1412
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:01,400
BIRDS CAW

1413
01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:05,800
Dad used to say something to me.

1414
01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:08,480
I was only about four or five, I
think. But he used to pick us up,

1415
01:22:08,480 --> 01:22:10,400
pick me up
and I used to sit on the bar.

1416
01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:12,480
VOICE-OVER: I'm trying to be humble,
but, you know,

1417
01:22:12,480 --> 01:22:16,120
<font color="
jigsaw puzzle piece because,

1418
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:19,360
you know, I guess
if I hadn't been a Beatle fan,

1419
01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:21,000
if I hadn't have met Steve...

1420
01:22:22,480 --> 01:22:24,360
..if I hadn't have played the
guitar,

1421
01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:26,160
these little things
<font color="

1422
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:27,800
it might have just been a different
story.

1423
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:29,000
We might never have found it.

1424
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:30,440
There you go, mate - for your dad.

1425
01:22:30,440 --> 01:22:32,880
Cheers. To the old man.
Absent friends. Yeah.

1426
01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:37,360
<font color="

1427
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:40,920
We got it back for everybody
who was a Beatles fan.

1428
01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:42,760
All the kids like me.

1429
01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:46,480
We were little kids back then and
we're old farts now, you know.

1430
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:50,480
They could see that bass once more,
you know?

1431
01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:06,520
BASS PLAYS

1432
01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:11,280
<font color="

1433
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:14,760
It's much better.
The logo is totally different.

1434
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:16,640
Yeah, but that's the old logo.

1435
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:19,880
Oh, yeah! Early logo. Yeah, right.

1436
01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:21,280
How's it feel?

1437
01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:23,160
It feels great. Does it?

1438
01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:23,160
THEY LAUGH

1439
01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:25,360
Come on, we can go and open
the doors.

1440
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:29,400
HE LAUGHS

1441
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:31,880
LAUGHS: Hello!

1442
01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:36,600
<font color="
My love. Fantastic to see you.

1443
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:39,680
First time ever. Hello.
We meet at last.

1444
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:42,200
Maybe he's going to play the bass.
Who can tell?

1445
01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:43,240
CHEERING

1446
01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:58,480
So, a little tale to tell you here.

1447
01:23:58,480 --> 01:24:00,360
One...

1448
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:06,440
A while ago, I
had a bass besides this one.

1449
01:24:06,440 --> 01:24:08,200
My original bass.

1450
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:12,240
And, uh, it got nicked,
tell you the truth.

1451
01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:14,800
And we've been looking for it
for 50 years.

1452
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:16,200
Well, uh...

1453
01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:18,480
..I got it back.

1454
01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:24,120
And here to make its first stage
appearance

1455
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:27,760
in 50 years is my original bass.

1456
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:31,960
CHEERING

1457
01:24:41,440 --> 01:24:44,000
Get Back. All right!Are you ready?
Yeah!

1458
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:45,320
Come on then.

1459
01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:57,120

a loner

1460
01:24:57,120 --> 01:24:59,800


1461
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:05,120

in Tucson, Arizona

1462
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:07,680


1463
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:13,320
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hands, if you're happy to grab it.

1464
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:14,960
I have it right here.

1465
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:16,800
HE CHUCKLES

1466
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:18,560
There she is.

1467
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:20,040
That's my old baby.

1468
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:24,160
Do you find yourself getting a bit
more reflective as you get older?

1469
01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:26,920
Yeah. Yeah, I think so.
Yeah, definitely.

1470
01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:32,000
Um...because it's so special.

1471
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:33,120
I don't have an amp.

1472
01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:42,720
These are just four guys in
Liverpool

1473
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:44,800
who didn't know each other.

1474
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:50,080
I got introduced to John
via a schoolmate of mine and,

1475
01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:51,760
yeah, I really liked him.

1476
01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:52,880
It's lovely to play.

1477
01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:57,680
And then George
I knew off the school bus.

1478
01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:02,680
And John was looking
for someone else to play guitar.

1479
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:08,400
And I said, "I've got this mate,
you know, who's pretty good."

1480
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:12,760
Yeah, you can get right up there
and you wouldn't normally use them.

1481
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:15,600
I said to George, "Go on, play it."
He's looking at me.

1482
01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:18,680
So I encouraged George.
George got it out of the case

1483
01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:21,600
and he plays a thing called Raunchy,

1484
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:24,400
which is good and he did it great.

1485
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:27,440
Then suddenly we had three of
the Beatles then.

1486
01:26:27,440 --> 01:26:33,360
And it only needed Ringo
to show up for us to be complete.

1487
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:42,880

who thought he was a loner

1488
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:45,640


1489
01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:50,640

in Tucson, Arizona

1490
01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:54,040


1491
01:26:54,040 --> 01:26:56,080


1492
01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:57,480


1493
01:26:57,480 --> 01:27:01,640

belonged

1494
01:27:01,640 --> 01:27:02,680


1495
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:05,360


1496
01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:08,880

to where you once belonged

1497
01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:10,160


1498
01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:21,440



